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Re: The Molotov Cocktail Party

Postby conan the librarian » Tue Nov 16, 2010 3:58 am

there's an anti-totalitarian message in the molotov cocktail that hasn't been mentioned yet. I read about it recently and here's some info from wikipedia for a summary:

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On 30 November 1939, the Soviet Union launched a war against Finland after a futile year and a half campaign to persuade the Finnish government to cede territory to the Soviet Union and give up some sovereignty by conceding specific military and political favors. The Finnish Army, facing Red Army tanks in what came to be known as the Winter War, borrowed the design of an improvised incendiary device that had been used for the first time[2] in the just-concluded Spanish Civil War (July 1936–April 1939)
During the Winter War, the Soviet air force made extensive use of incendiaries and cluster bombs against Finnish troops and fortifications. When Soviet People's Commissar for Foreign Affairs Vyacheslav Molotov claimed in radio broadcasts that the Soviet Union was not dropping bombs but rather delivering food to the starving Finns, the Finns started to call the air bombs Molotov bread baskets.[4] Soon they responded by attacking advancing tanks with "Molotov cocktails" which were "a drink to go with the food". At first, the term was used to describe only the burning mixture itself, but in practical use the term was soon applied to the combination of both the bottle and its contents. This Finnish use of the hand- or sling-thrown explosive against Soviet tanks was repeated in the subsequent Continuation War between the two countries.

Molotov himself was a real bastard, here's his page too...
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Re: The Molotov Cocktail Party

Postby Chris73 » Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:39 pm

How funny is the Molotov Cocktail Party now?
'Ares urged on the Trojans,
while bright-eyed Athena kept rousing the Achaeans.
With them came Terror, Fear, and tireless Strife,
sister and companion of man-destroying Ares—
at first small in stature, she later grows enormous,
head reaching heaven, as she strides across the earth.
Strife went through crowds of soldiers, casting hatred
on both sides equally, multiplying human miseries.' - Homer, Iliad 4.440

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Re: The Molotov Cocktail Party

Postby Okeefenokee » Fri Aug 26, 2011 4:45 pm

there is us where we are, our objective before us, and the obstacles between us.

neither then nor now is violence entered into for violence's sake, but because there are times when the obstacles cannot be moved or circumvented without encountering violence.

in some cases violence will eliminate the obstacle but more often it is that those attempting to reach their destination must bear the force exerted by the obstacles to getting there.

when one begins his movement towards his goal, he will not need to do so violently. in the beginning non-violence will be necessary in order to maintain legitimacy. but be assured that as more and more ground is gained there will be less and less give from the obstacles until he finds himself at the point where his obstacles will not be moved. at that break water of the wave of non-violence there will be no more incentive for his obstacles to indulge his demands. that is when he can expect a violent repulsion of any further movement towards his objective.

there are too many sheep today for a non-violent movement to reach its objective. the obstacle is too entrenched and stand to lose too much to be willing to sacrifice it all voluntarily when it has the option to prevent its own removal through the use of force.
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